@sylviaplath i'm gonna take ur points and address them one by one. there r so many of them w h y
#1 damn a better question rlly would've been "what is cultural appropriation and when does it get bad" bc both your definitions work, but i only think cultural appropriation matters when you take an actual minority, one that's actually oppressed actually like 2day. native americans is the one i'm thinking of they get appropriated aLL the time and that's not ok because you're taking like a legit minority and exotifying it but indiaS NOT THAT INDIA HAS SO MANY PEOPLE EVERYONE KNOWS THE BINDI IS INDIAN IF YOu see a vaguely native american looking pattern you have no idea what tribe it's from it could be mayan or incan or aztec or cherokee you literally have no way of knowing unless you are well-versed in native american studies tHAT IS CULtural appropriation bc white people are benefiting from something that's not theirs AND undermining the origin culture NOTHING THE FUCKING FUCKING FUCK HAPPENS WHEN WHITE PEOPLE WEAR THE BINDI. WHITE PEOPLE. GET OVER YOURSELVES. STOP THINKING U WEARING OUR BINDIS ACTUALLY MATTERS
#2 a bindi isn't always a little dot. it isn't always red--quite often it's brown or black. they come in different shapes & sizes, too. and married women do wear them, but so do unmarried women, girls, and babies, and widows, and spinsters. but the most important thing is that its religious significance, although there is one, is archaic, ambiguous, and does not really exist at the at which level it may once have existed today. the bindi, however religious of a symbol it may have been before, is really more of a cultural icon today.
#3 tbh i don't think anyone really denies that a white woman at a gathering with indians should be allowed to wear indian clothes if the indians say it's okay but ya
(a) i don't think different designs have different meanings? i mean, i guess in the sense that different designs come from different parts of india? or maybe in the sense that the more decorative the bindi, the more likely it is that it was intended for some sort of formal occasion????
(b) whoa whoa whoa wtf did you just compare. the bindi. to the cross.??????? the cross is ingrained in religion the cross is drenched in religion the cross eats religion for breakfast, lunch, dinner and dessert and also showers in it. the bindi?//???i s a cultural symbol???????? idk how to think of a good parallel example bc white people seem to go pretty all-or-nothing in terms of the religiosity of symbols but i guess you could say it would be wrong for a white man to wear a turban or a white woman to wear a chador as a fashion statement, the same way it would be wrong for a brown man to wear a yamaka if that's not their religion. bUT S????????????????? the bindi and the cross aren't even comparable like not even a little so i'm not sure why you brought this up. but to respond do this statement: "you can't just take something that belongs to another culture and wear it for fun" <----- why not? what's the difference between this and eating another culture's cuisine for fun? or listening to another culture's music for fun (for ex. i do indian classical singing all the words are SUPER religious i have (i) no idea what they mean (ii) no idea what language they're in--why isn't that also cultural appropriation)? in fact, isn't wearing the bindi //even better// because it's a literal visual cue that you are engaging in a culture besides your own? since when did cultural borders become proprietary? (wow ello bold is /rlly/ bold) culture is to be shared, to be enjoyed and experienced, not to be segregated
(c) but it's obvious that white women wearing the bindi aren't indian. it's not like when a white woman wears a bindi it suddenly diminishes or trivializes the cultural struggle of the brown immigrant. in fact, i feel like at some level bringing the bindi into pop culture shows how far we've come in terms of accepting other cultures' legitimacy. also "wow bindi so pretty" isn't condescending at all they are looking at my culture and calling it beautiful why wouldn't i be happy?
sorry friend i'm not sure where you were going with the whole you being lebanese thing?? was it bc i was (sarcastically) saying that my not knowing the religious significance of the bindi made me as bad as these white girls? bc i was actually trying to make your point, that it's not cultural appropriation when i do it, so why is it cultural appropriation when a white girl does it?
if the purpose of the activity was to educate yourselves about other cultures, it probably would have been done more effectively if people presented their own cultures, simply because people tend to know more about their own cultures than they do others. but again my general opinion is that the word appropriate literally means to take, and nobody is taking saris or bindis and calling it their own. they're saying "hey, look at this beautiful culture, i would like to share in that beauty" and i can't even begin to understand why anyone would see anything wrong with that.
also i didnt have school today