And another thing. The descriptions presented by these women, they were all kissing on the first date.
Clearly, I've been doing this all wrong. I don't think I've ever kissed on a first date. I always thought that was a no-no. I certainly never wanted to be rude. Play it nice and reserved, so you don't come across as a raging perv like you-know-who.
Which isn't to say that I couldn't stand to be more assertive, rather than cautious. Sure, sure, I'm extremely emotionally guarded, and have terrible self-esteem, but I'm sure that has little to do with my lack of dating success.
But yeah. Kissing on the first date? Never tried it. (And TBH, I can't think of a situation where it would have gone over well, either.) But in these descriptions -- it's clear I've been going about this completely the wrong way.
Which isn't a surprise. I learn more every day.
[Update: Actually, I can think of one time, at that one CUP conference at U of T. That... did not go well. No wonder I never tried again.]